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Loox Setup: What Goes Wrong, and How to Avoid It

Livin Team Apr 2, 2024 14 min read· Last reviewed Apr 2, 2024

Loox Setup fails in a small number of predictable ways. Almost all of them are avoidable, and almost none of them are technical.

The failure modes

Buying it before the problem is named

Loox Setup solves a specific thing. If the actual constraint is somewhere else, this is an expensive way to find that out. We would rather point at the real leak than bill you for polishing around it.

Scope agreed in a phone call

Verbal scope is not scope. It is two people remembering a conversation differently, and it always surfaces at the worst point. Everything goes in writing before work starts.

Adding tools instead of removing them

The instinct on platform tools work is to bolt on another app or plugin. More often the fix is taking something out. We will tell you when the honest answer is "remove this", even though it is less to invoice for.

No baseline recorded

If nobody wrote down where you started, nobody can say whether it worked. We record the before figures at the start, using the same method we will use at the end.

Handover treated as a formality

A build your team cannot maintain is a subscription to whoever built it. Documentation and Loox access are part of the work here, not a favour afterwards.

Why scope is the root of most of it

Every item in the list below is either in the scope or it is not, and both of those are fine. What is not fine is nobody knowing which:

  • Requirements and current-state review for Loox Setup
  • Account, plan and configuration setup
  • Integration with your existing systems and data
  • Testing against real records and edge cases
  • Owner training session on the live account
  • Written configuration summary for future reference
  • Photo requests asked for at the point buyers are most likely to send one

The checks that catch it

  • Every item in the Loox Setup scope ticked off against the written list, in front of you
  • Tested on a real mid-range phone, not only on a desktop browser
  • Checked against your existing Loox setup so nothing that already worked has quietly broken
  • Account, plan and configuration setup verified end to end rather than assumed
  • Keyboard navigation and screen-reader labelling checked on anything interactive
  • Handover documentation read back by someone who did not build it

What we need from you so it does not happen

  • Access to Loox Admin or collaborator access, created in your account so you can revoke it whenever you like. The single most common cause of a slipped date on Loox Setup is access arriving two weeks after kickoff
  • One person who can decide Not a committee. Someone who can approve a direction without escalating it. Where approvals need three people, we build that into the timeline rather than pretending it is free
  • Whatever content the scope depends on Copy, images, product data, brand assets whichever apply. If you would rather we produced them, that is a separate scope and we will say so before you assume it is included
  • An agreed definition of finished We write down what "done" means for Loox Setup before starting, and both sides sign off on it. It is the cheapest thing you can do to avoid a dispute at the end

When loox setup is the wrong answer entirely

  • You need it faster than 35 days. We will not compress loox setup into a weekend by skipping the testing, and an agency that agrees to is telling you which corner they plan to cut
  • You are not committed to Loox. Most of the value here comes from working properly inside Loox, so if you are mid-way through deciding whether to move off it, decide first otherwise you are paying us to improve something you are about to replace
  • What you actually want is get photo reviews from real buyers and show them where they convert guaranteed as an outcome. We will not sign that, because the result depends on your market, your pricing and your traffic as much as on the build. We guarantee the scope, the date and the quality of the work
  • You want someone to take it away and report back monthly. This runs as a fixed piece of work with a written scope and a handover, not as a retainer if you want a permanent platform tools function, hiring is usually cheaper than us

Had loox setup go wrong before? Tell us what happened and we will tell you honestly whether it is worth fixing or worth redoing.

Questions that surface the risk early

What is Loox Setup?

Loox Setup is a platform tools service from Livin Services. In one line: get photo reviews from real buyers and show them where they convert. It's a defined piece of work with an agreed finish line, not an open-ended retainer, so you know what you're buying before you commit to it.

What is included in Loox Setup?

Loox Setup covers requirements and current-state review for loox setup, account, plan and configuration setup, integration with your existing systems and data, testing against real records and edge cases, owner training session on the live account, written configuration summary for future reference, photo requests asked for at the point buyers are most likely to send one, galleries placed where they answer an objection, not only on the product page and image loading checked so the gallery does not slow the page it sits on. All of that gets written down before we start, so you know exactly what's landing and what isn't. Anything outside the list gets quoted separately we won't quietly absorb it and we won't quietly bill for it either.

What is not included in Loox Setup?

Anything not named in the written scope. In practice that usually means ongoing management after handover, content and copy you have not supplied, third-party licence and subscription costs, and work in other disciplines those are separate services with their own scopes. We list exclusions explicitly rather than leaving them to be discovered halfway through.

How long does Loox Setup take?

A typical Loox Setup engagement runs 35 days from kickoff to handover. That covers discovery and scoping, build or implementation, review with your team, and a final QA pass. Larger or multi-market builds extend this and we say so during scoping rather than after.

Can Loox Setup be delivered faster than 3–5 days?

Sometimes, if the scope is reduced rather than the care taken. We will tell you which parts can be deferred to a second phase to hit a date. What we will not do is compress testing and review to make a deadline look achievable that moves the cost from the timeline to the month after launch.

How is Loox Setup quoted?

One fixed price against a written scope. Not an hourly rate. What moves that number is how many templates, integrations and awkward edge cases are involved not how long we happen to take, which is our problem to manage, not yours. There's no price list because a real quote depends on your situation. Tell us what you need and you'll get a written scope and a fixed figure back, with anything that could change it flagged upfront rather than appearing on an invoice later.

How the work runs, week by week

People ask for this more than anything else, and it is a fair question: you are about to hand over access to systems you depend on, and "we will keep you posted" is not an answer.

Stage 1 — We look at what you actually have

Before anything is quoted we go through your current Loox setup and whatever else touches it. Half the time this changes the recommendation the thing you asked for turns out not to be the thing that is costing you.

Stage 2 — The scope gets written down

Every line of Loox Setup that will be delivered, in plain English, with one fixed price and a date. Exclusions are listed as explicitly as inclusions, because the argument three weeks in is always about something nobody wrote down.

Stage 3 — Build, in the open

You see get photo reviews from real buyers and show them where they convert take shape rather than being shown a finished thing at the end. If something we assumed turns out to be wrong, you hear it the day we find out.

Stage 4 — Tested against real conditions

Requirements and current-state review for Loox Setup is checked on real devices and real data, not just on the machine it was built on. A thing that works only in ideal conditions is not finished.

Stage 5 — Handover, then it is yours

Documentation written for your team, every account already in your name, and a walkthrough. Typical end to end: 35 days. Nothing rolls over into a monthly fee you did not ask for.

None of that is a fixed calendar. It is an order. The dates go in the scope, and the honest note is that the order almost never changes while the dates sometimes do usually for reasons on the client side rather than ours.

A note on access and approvals

Two practical notes. Send individual accounts rather than a shared login individual access can be revoked per person at handover, and a shared password is the most common way a business quietly loses control of its own systems. And name one person who can approve decisions. Not a committee. A project with three approvers moves at the speed of the slowest one, and everybody ends up frustrated with the wrong party.

What we check before we call it finished

"Done" is the word that causes the most arguments in this industry, because it usually means something different to each side. Ours means all of the following are true, and you can hold us to the list:

  • Every item in the Loox Setup scope ticked off against the written list, in front of you
  • Tested on a real mid-range phone, not only on a desktop browser
  • Checked against your existing Loox setup so nothing that already worked has quietly broken
  • Account, plan and configuration setup verified end to end rather than assumed
  • Keyboard navigation and screen-reader labelling checked on anything interactive
  • Handover documentation read back by someone who did not build it

Note what is in there and what is not. There is no line about you being happy not because we do not care, but because a definition of done that depends on a feeling has no end. If something is wrong against the scope, we fix it. If something outside the scope turns out to matter, we quote it as a line rather than absorbing it quietly, because absorbed work is how a fixed price stops being fixed.

The tools, and who owns them

Loox, Shopify.

Where you already own something that does the job, we use it. Where we recommend adding something, the account gets created in your name, on your billing, with your team as administrators from the first day not ours, and not a reseller's. This is not generosity. It is the single thing that determines whether you have a supplier or a dependency.

The same applies to everything we produce. Source files, configuration, documentation, credentials: yours, handed over as we go rather than held until a final invoice clears.

The tools, and who owns them

Loox, Shopify.

Where you already own something that does the job, we use it. Where we recommend adding something, the account gets created in your name, on your billing, with your team as administrators from the first day not ours, and not a reseller's.

Where this discipline actually stands

Infrastructure work is invisible when it is right, which makes it easy to under-buy and easy to oversell. Our rule is that nothing counts as done until it has been tested in the failure case, not the happy one: a backup that has been restored, a firewall run in monitoring mode first, an alert that someone has agreed to act on. And it all lives in your accounts, because a supplier holding your infrastructure holds your business.

What we will not do

Worth being explicit, because these are the promises you will hear elsewhere:

  • We will not guarantee a commercial outcome. Get photo reviews from real buyers and show them where they convert is what the work delivers. What that turns into depends on your market, your pricing and your competitors as much as on us.
  • We will not quote a number before understanding the scope. A price given in the first five minutes is a price with the risk padded in, and you pay for the padding.
  • We will not take work we do not think will help. That has cost us enquiries and it will again.
  • We will not hold your accounts, your data or your files as leverage.
  • We will not add a tool where removing one would do. We say "remove this" fairly often, and it is always less to invoice for.

What is different once it is done

  • Loox Setup is in place and documented, so your team can change it without calling us
  • Requirements and current-state review for Loox Setup delivered against a written list you can check line by line
  • Every account and credential in your name, with nothing on our infrastructure
  • A clear record of where you started, so the effect of the platform tools work is measurable rather than a feeling
  • One fixed price paid, with no retainer required to keep it working

That is the honest list. Not a transformation a specific set of things that are true afterwards and were not true before, each one checkable.

How we would want to be compared

If you are getting other quotes, and you should, compare the scopes rather than the totals. Ask each supplier the same three things: what exactly is included and excluded, what does done mean, and who owns the accounts at the end. The answers separate suppliers far more reliably than a portfolio does.

And if someone else's scope covers the same ground for less, take it. We would rather you did that than start something on a number nobody is comfortable with.

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